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The author by telling the story reaches the zero Degree state where thought are frozen,and sure will make the readers too. I like the the story Narrative, the narration in Charu Novels always will be related to the theme of the Novel.
As Charu Nivedita spews his critique, or a disguised critique of magic realism that is undergoing an existential crisis—it gets a wee bit complicated here—one witnesses the throes of one literary genre getting. So does Zero Degree—it is a brilliant novel that was written in Tamil much ahead of its time.
Losing identity and reaching the zero degree state and so the Narration is confusion of “I”. He also have not mentioned “I” in this novel and all Numbers are either 9 or the sum of the numbers are is Nine. Even we don’t understand the Novel completely we will get the exact feel in which the Novel was written. That is the Magic of his Words. If you’ve read my post, it should be obvious I’m not naive, so much as completely ignorant of the Tamil literary scene. Charu is the first translated modern Tamil writer I’ve read, and I accept that I know practically none of the rest.
I also mention that I cannot read Tamil, so I cannot read what you have linked me to. In any case, this is a blog discussing writing, not the possibly criminal behaviour of writers. There are other avenues to deal with your problems with Charu Nivedita, and I suggest you use them. For those like me with not much exposure to literature in other Indian languages than Tamil, it is good to hear that contemporary Tamil literature is on par with others.
Some Tamil writers also make the same claim, but we have no independent verification of it. Charu Niveditha is definitely among the significant writers in Tamil at present. But, there are Tamil writers better than him. They need to take efforts like Charu Niveditha to promote themselves better and get their works translated into English. Zero Degree is by far Charu’s best novel. His first work “Existencialismum Fancy Baniyanum” is also of the same genre, but he reached his peak in the second novel which came out after a long gap (20 or 25 years, I believe). There was a controversy that Zero Degree had the contributions of a few other writers.
‘Rasa Leela’ in a way is a response to the controversy and Charu Niveditha put a rest to the speculations that someone else was writing his works. However, ‘Rasa Leela’ is just a rework of Zero Degree following the same style but losing some of the soul in the process. Some of the parts were even reheated parts of his earlier work (for example, Tamil does not have letters that sound like B or F. So, Beef Briyani written in Tamil will also sound like Shit Briyani. Charu uses this in his “Existencialismum Fancy Baniyanum” and “Rasa Leela”).
A large part of Rasa Leela seems to have the intent of filling up pages, and Charu himself makes an intertextual reference to it and mocks himself. Also, the autofiction part of Zero Degree started dominating over other parts in Rasa Leela.
His subsequent Kamarooba Kathaigal is just a ditto. I am yet to read his “Theham” or “Exile” but commentaries that I have read indicate that Charu has not moved away from the basic plot. Finally, your depiction of Jayamohan as a post-modernist writer does not seem right.
If you must box him in the Western classification, he probably straddles between realism and modernism, and occasionally ventures into magical realism. Jayamohan is a prolific writer of great talent, but he is not as loyal to his plot or style as Charu Niveditha is. Thanks for your comment, Suresh. I am hopeful English translations of his other novels will turn up.
I did some research mainly on the Internet on Jeyamohan and it seemed from various blogs and reviews that he sits somewhere in the divide between modernism and postmodernism, but the magical realism made me club him under the postmodernists. But I wasn’t sure. Thanks for clarifying that, though unfortunately, neither ‘Vishnupuram’ nor ‘Rubber’ has been translated into English yet and I may not be able to make up my mind until then, which is a pity. I am a big fan of Jeyamohan. Vishnupuram is supposed to be his Magnus Opus, which I haven’t read yet. Apparently, it is a treatise on various spiritual philosophies which existed in (South?) India, through a fiction.
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But `Kaadu’ (Tami for Forest) is the Novel from which anyone should start reading him – it’s a beautiful book. Please don’t label Je with a simple `Post-modernistic’ – it is actually belittling a great writer classifying him into simple cliched epithets. He is much more than that. For example, he has written tonnes on Gandhi and Bhagvad Gita!
He is definitely different from Charu Nivedita, whose main method of being post-modernistic is to shout all the time from all available roof-tops that he is indeed one! Download Lagu Netral Nurani Mp3. And to belittle anything and everything in Tamil and Tamilnadu.
By writing “Charu” has sex with a father and daughter and the daughter character even pisses on “Charu”, rape will be eliminated? By writing a nephew has feelings for his aunt, murder will be eliminated? By encouraging incest, all perversions that exist in society will disappear into thin air? By writing 100% meaningless crap like “Joker was here”, illicit relationship will all be gone away? Please give Unnatha Sangeetham to your dad, mon, wife, sister and your daughter (if she is 18). He has graphically portrayed perversions but has he given any solution?
He has not opened his mouth when Jayalalitha ordered the closure of Anna Library. He has not written anything on Kudankulam.
He did not express his views on Samacheer Kalvi. All he thinks and writes about is perverted sex! He compares himself to Marquis who himself was a mentally deranged man. I would be happy if he leaves India and settles down in France, we don’t need him here. His contribution to society is a big 0! And what about the men?
They can read it because they don’t have some sort of refined sensitivity to sex? Because of course, the shy, docile women in my home don’t think of sex and instead focus on serving their men better, right? My mother is a gynaecologist, and is hardly likely to faint over a description of a penis or vagina in real life, let alone in a book. Logixpro Free Download Mac. My father is a doctor as well, who’s brought me up on a diet of books, feminism and being independent in both thought and action. Do not presume to know any of us or our families. And if you have something literary to say about Nivedita’s writing, say it – that is what blogs and commentary are for.
Otherwise spare us lectures on puritanical sexual morality and keep it in America where people like Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and Newt Gingrich will appreciate your sexist crap. I’m going to politely ask you to leave if your only wish is to preach at us. Oh and by the way, my mother read part of ‘Zero Degree’ and disliked it because of the plotless structure. She said it didn’t hold her attention and didn’t understand how it could retain my concentration. She also didn’t like the swearing.
She had no criticism however, for the incest, sexual description or the violence, a lot of which she comes across in one form or another in her line of work. You see, some women can read beyond the obvious and think about what the subtext is. Maybe you should try meeting some of these women. I would just like to put out my view from a woman’s point. Of course, I’m not a gynecologist, but a regular reader of all books who like to explore new authors.
I like Vaasanthi in Tamil. I was not able to go beyond certain pages in Zero degree as I really didnt see the point and was clueless where the author would go next, so lost interest & never continued but usually I would never give up that fast on an author. But what I have observed is that Charu Niveditha doesn’t seem to entertain opposing comments. As a woman I’m not comfortable in posting comments in his Facebook vattam as I feel he has dada’s around him who will try to attack me personally with F word with personal abuse rather than a healthy argument for negative comments. I have to totally agree with this other person who mentioned about women reading charu’s books as man & woman are totally different in thinking & analyzing.
Women have certain limits (I have been living in the west for more than a decade), we still have separate stalls in rest rooms unlike men’s. So this is where the basic difference is and not with penis or vagina. I’m not here to preach anyone as I don’t think it’s my place as we all are adults and can think better for ourselves. But definitely wanted to share my view as a woman as I’m more comfortable posting here as I feel that I will not be personally attacked but only my ‘views’.
If you think crude, vulgar writing is literature, yes, I should not waste my time replying. Please read books by Aadhavan, Nakulan, Karichaan Kunju, Paa. Singaaram if you would like to know how sex should be handled. I am not here to preach but Charu is unable to sell books because of the crudeness/vulgarity. We come across so much crap in our live, why not stay positive in life, do something about it and avoid reading the this crap, for what? BTW, I hate Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and Newt Gingrich.
I would rather read Paulo Coelho instead of reading crap written by Charu. Anyway, good luck and good bye! For all the good guys out there who hate charu and his vulgar writings pls answer me if u are all good then who watches porno, how do the prostitutes live, who rubs women in the back in buses, who talks vulgarly and passes comments while passing women in road, in which house a girl can truly say she has never ever been touched with the wrong intention by her dad, brother or uncle or cousin.
How many of u have never ever fantasized about ur aunt or sister or cousin or even ur mother.if u ve answers for all these questions pls reply. Dude, there is no such position as department manager, get your facts straight. I have been to Long Beach as I live in CA. Please call the number in the link and check for yourself (call Lisa) if it is part of the curriculum (I did) I am not trying to be a cultural taliban.
I am asking what’s the use of stories like Unnatha Sangeetham and Joker was here? Even “pleasure of text” is not there (in my opinion). Even Charu has written many times, he writes all this in a schizoid state (meaning: resembling schizophrenia in having inconsistent or contradictory elements; mad or crazy). I kindly request fresh readers to read the comments by those who oppose charu.
You may find it indecent and want to skip it.but still read it.Then only you will understand the enmity and hatred in those writing. These negative feelings spoil our hear and and our mind. In this highly corrupted society, these negative feelings accumulated in our brain even without our effort. So we are torturing ourselves and torturing society. But once we start to read books of great writers like Cahru Nivedita, slowly we will come out of negative feelings and start to celebrate life. We cant hate any one thereafter.in fact we wont have time for it.
If you wish to see the world and life in different perspective, reading charu’s book will be the best option. Zero degree is different novel for the new readers, i dont want to blame charu for his personnel acts. Every human having their own uglyness inside. When i read the zero degree in 2003 i was shoked about the writing, but i enjoyed verymuch and i understand about the illakiyam. I was thinking a good ilakiyam should give very holy social things only like jayaganthan, but zero degree was make everything upside down in my heart, the charector “muniyandi” is the unforgettable one in my life. About his rassaleela is the another one excellent novel. If you start to read his writing you cannot stop until finish the book.
Charu has wonderful writing skill which will eat you when go inside the book. Charu is a hypocrite. He thinks in the name of creativity he only can dish out vulgarity in Tamilnadu. He is the only jaundice eyed loser who wrote 5 pages of critique saying “Robot” ( Endhiran) is the worst vulgar movie he has ever seen.
He is a male chauvinist who thinks women are for sexual enjoyment for males. He demeans women by regularly writing incest relationship involving women. He is the only man i have seen who practices what he writes he tries to molest young teenagers in facebook and other internet medium had he been in US he would have been awarded 40 years of imprisonment for the sexual predation he has done in his life on young and unassuming women. Hey Uglywords, You did the right thing by reviewing this novel – for this is the “one & only” novel written by Mr.Charu. Whatever he has churned after that is mere garbage (my personal opnion) – All said and done, he is an excellent brand manager – his case study can easily be taught in India’s leading management institutes. He was highly successful in building “brand charu” and inspite of his short comings and lack of literature skills (and not to forget his constant flip flops in various issues – Narsim, Nithya, Manusiyaputhiran, Mishkin, sex chats etc) he still has his fan following firmly intact.
Literature – forget about it, Charu – we want more chat transcripts of yours – its more interesting than your (to quote Sujatha’s words) $hit articles & novels. I dont know English well to write. Because i finished my schooling through english medium. I studied only plus 2. Even though i try to write in english. If i have any gramettical and spelling mistakes plz bear. I affected some mentel disorders.
I took medicine for long time. In that time i entered reading tamil lit with blessing of chottanikkara bagavathi. As soon as i entered reading i came to know charu’s website before 7 years. I have been reading charu for 7 years. His writing totaly changed me.
And reduse my mental problems. And also i stoped medicine. His writing changed my personality too. For example the boy who is from well reading ( 500 years reading hapit) family,his personality will be fine one. My personality also like the boy by reading charu’s writing. My family and my ancestors not educate.
My generation is first to education. But i am equal to the boy who is from the 500 years reading hapit family.
Because i read charu. Here i spoke charu’s total writing. About zero degree i will write my next comment. Thanks perumal karur. I’ve been observing the comments quietlyCharu you rock!!!
Nobody kicks a dead dog. (Beware of this US guy anyway.comes in various Id’s and is surely to kill you.:):).doubt he’s a psychopath.heard that he spews venom on people who support you in their FB message) I started laughing on his ‘unleashing psycho’ partha ha.super! And ‘thavanerichelvan’-ugliness- Charu? You’re mistaken.most beautiful human being i’ve met Read somewhere “unjust criticism is often a disguised compliment!” Once an American newspaper protrayed a man as a ‘hypocrite’, ‘murderer’cartoon depicted him on a guillotine, a sword to chop off his head. Crowds seethed at him as he passed by the streets.The man is George Washington!! Way to go Charu!!!
More they spit,more you are worthy of attention. And all out here who’s supporting Charu, let’s look at our work and enjoy ugly words’ other reviewsTa ta.:) Yes.one more thingWhen somebody kick and criticize a great person, remember it’s often done because it gives the kicker a feeling of importance.(This you should know ‘Dean sir”) So.poor thing.Let him get kicks out of thisdo not interfere please.it’s interesting.:). Gosh!!whether priya knows about him or not, i know charu very well and i also know the tortures he’s getting from girls and women who swarm him i know how he’s getting abused by women.His wife, his son and myself,we all know in and out about this sex chat and who’s responsible for this. Please don’t talk about this again and again in various Id’s. Do you know for the past one week he’s being harassed by a girl who wants him and a house wife (talk about married women!)who called him 82 times? Even at midnight. I’m not exaggerating here a little bit.
Girls daily call him to pour out their stories, sad, unhappy ones. If he listens to them and say a few consoling wordsfinished!! They torture him thinking they’ve attracted him. You don’t know anything about him, his lifeso please stop criticising that man. Do you know, a so-called great spiritual, puritan writer of Tamil society, who portrays himself as a great human being and talks as if he’s a saint, is a great womaniser? I have personal experience.
I once used to think him as my father figure and ran out literally from his house one day. And Charu’s life is an open book.You can never see a man who’s so candid about his life.(see Tishani Doshi’s interview of Charu- “I’m addicted to sex and writing!”) Can that writer come in open and say that?
He’ll give lectures like you. I second priya’s opinion. Charu is a humble, beautiful human.
He’s reading all these comments with a smile and he had asked me not to comment and do my work.he’s going to get angry if he sees thisBut Charu, I’m sorry, I couldn’t keep quiet. And a request to PallaviPlease can you stop these derogatory comments about Charu this guy makes? Let him talk anything about his works.
But he cannot cast slur on his reputation. Charu doesn’t care.But we (his family and friends) do care!
Snap on airbrush bf360 users manual. No opposite side here PallaviIt’s just one man in different Id’s. He was in Charu’s reader’s group and he was thrown out of the group.( you can guess why) He got mad and doing this. And now he’s commenting in Jeyamohan’s name which is unethical because he and Charu are different poles altogether. At first when i saw the name, i got a shock. But Charu said it cannot be Jeyamohan and he doesn’t go so low.
In fact he has great respect for him and vice versa. Day before too they met accidentally and were talking happily. What does this man ( i want to use an adjective, but holding me back because of decency) know about him?Ask him to shut up. And as you suggested, i’m unsubscribing from comments. Thanks and i enjoy reading your reviews. Keep it up.:). Go on, take me to internet court.
Is there just one “krish kumar” in all of India? I could have typed out his whole email address and let Charu’s fans do the name-calling instead, but I didn’t. Coz I’m nice like that. And I can respect a guy until he pretends to be 5 different people calling someone names to make it seem the Internet is full of idiots like him.
I don’t doubt you’re probably the same guy, and like I said, I have just about enough patience to let intelligent debate be part of this comment thread. But the moment this crosses over into “ugly sense” as you so appropriately named yourself, I will delete every nefarious comment on this thread and simply let the constructive ones only stay.
Piss off, dude. Find something better to do with your time than trolling someone on the Internet. US tamilan will never read the works you suggested, as he already has clearly mentioned that he reads Ramana Maharshi, Coelho etc. My point is, nothing wrong in reading or not reading certain authors. But, who gives them the liberty of ‘preaching’ to the world that they are obscene? That’s his problem.
And, I can clearly witness his anger and frustration when his comments are countered. The basic thing of listening to the debate or argument or watever is missing in his barbaric approach. He wants to out-rightly crush the opposition. I am sure, if murder is not a crime, he will happily kill Charu. Hence, I don’t think US Tamilan will be able to read Bataille or sade or Barthezsor Sondag. If he, by chance glances over the pages, I’m damn sure his blood will start to boil, as our friend here will never understand the genre. That’s why I mentioned him as a cultural taliban.
He will NEVER engage in active debates. His aim is to assassinate the character of Charu. In watever ways he can. That’s my opinion. I was intrigued enough when I first heard about Charu Nivedita through Pallavi, but learning how deeply offensive his work is to these many readers, I went ahead and purchased Zero Degrees. Also, reading all these comments, I get the feeling an onus has been placed, not just on this writer but on literature as a whole. Why hoist the writer on a pedestal and expect him or her to produce works of upliftment?
These perceptions aside, a writer has no societal role whatsoever; no moral obligation to respect long established conventions of decency. A writer’s job is to write, full stop. Money, political statements and addressing social evils are all besides the point. Charu Nivedita could be a sodomizer of holy cows for all I care, so long as I like what he’s written. @USTamilian: “I am not here to preach but Charu is unable to sell books because of the crudeness/vulgarity. We come across so much crap in our live, why not stay positive in life, do something about it and avoid reading the this crap, for what?” But this should please you, determined as you are to stop people from reading his work.
Crap, like most things, is subjective. What, may I ask, qualifies you to dish out this unwanted advice, to come in the way of readers exercising their right to read? I haven’t read Nivedita yet, but there are several books that have displeased me on many levels; you ask us to be positive and yet, you are on a vindictive mission of your own making, all because your sensibilities were offended by words. Now that’s what I call pathetic. I’ve said this before and I’m saying it again – if you have legal issues with Charu, take the evidence and go to the police, lawyers, courts. My blog – which discusses books, film and other art – is not a stage to evangelise or persecute.
And stop with this whole gullibility crap – we can equally call you a pathetic fool full of paranoia and moral outrage who cannot find an outlet anywhere else, so he turns up on the web and trolls people. Any other comment you make, US Tamilian, I will retain only if you refer to Charu’s writing. If you continue posting slanderous, defamatory remarks and casting personal judgments on the kind of person Charu is, I will delete it.
I’m not qualified or knowledgeable enough to discuss ethics, laws etc, etc, so this blog stays purely as art for art’s sake. I’ve been polite in requesting you to stay away once, I won’t be again. You know where you can take your agenda and shove it. Rajesh’s contribution has been focused on Charu’s writings, yes, and where it has ended up as curriculum and what it personally means to him.
And exactly what has Rajesh said that is slanderous? Do you know the meaning of slander or defamation? To make an unfactual, erroneous claim about a person to a third party. Calling someone an idiot, a jerk or an ass is not slander – it’s name-calling and at most, rude.
Saying someone has committed sex crimes, theft, fraud, rape, incest or paedophilia when there is no material evidence (apart from hearsay) or court ruling supporting it, that is slander. Defamation needs to also be made to a third party – meaning, not to the person him/herself. As far as I see it, Rajesh is telling you what he thinks to your face.
That may cross the lines of acceptable etiquette or manners, but is not slander or defamation. There is also no significant loss to your reputation as a result, which is also a necessity to recognise it as defamation – unlike what you and other goons are trying to do to Charu. Get the difference?
Again generalizing. For a change – I am from Japan (Check my IP). So these words are slanderous in the society I live in.
If you see people stepping out on Shit – you try to alert them. But here people are more interested in not only stepping on shit but rather play with it and roll over it (Haven’t your writer narrated a similar incident in Raasa leela – while explaining the Rendezvous of one of his characters with a prostitute at Chennai beach). And why are you guys so averse to criticism while your idol takes great pleasure in playin the role of a critic passing judgments on others?
When I said “we’re not in the MIddle East” I meant both where Charu’s writing is published and where I, the reader, am based and we’re both in India. In the Middle East, I’m sure this blog is probably censored for adult content – they have nation-wide filters for that. And slander applies to the country the blog is registered in and that the blogger resides in – WordPress can be called in to provide my personal details only if taken to court in the country I live in or this blog is hosted in, and in India, no precedent exists for such legality. But with Sibal and his moronic statements, who knows. And we are not averse to criticism of Charu’s WRITING.
Go ahead, call it pornographic, explain why you think it is low quality, why it lacks literary merit and I will not censor a single comment of that type. What I object to is libel, slander and defamation on Charu’s CHARACTER, particularly when it’s hosted on my blog.
I’m sure NONE of you who cheerfully accuse Charu of child molestation, rape and harassment know him personally, have observed his actions firsthand or have evidence to the same. /smackdown-pain-for-ppsspp-android-highly-compressed.html. If I were to do the same to the Prime Minister is it fair? If I were to do that even to criminals like Kasab, is it fair? How can you hang, draw and quarter someone for something which you have no proof of and whose information you have only found freely floating on the web?
And who are his victims who have not made police complaints or taken him to court for the same? Like one of the other posters said, separate the writer from his writing. Nabokov wrote Lolita with its paedophilic themes yet stands unaccused of any such behaviour in his real life. Lewis Carroll is supposed to have had a muse for Alice in Wonderland with its many predatory overtones yet stands un-besmirched in his public life.
It is possible to write pornographically without being a sexual criminal in real life. I will presume Charu’s innocence until someone can conclusively prove his guilt. If the evidence racks up against him and the police arrest him, I will stand for justice and a fair trial, regardless of the outcome. That should be the only criteria as far as I am concerned. Now that we have hit some common ground (like separating writings from the writer), let me share my personal opinion on Charu’s writing. Zero Degree is good.
But whatever he has written after that is pure rehash. You get a feeling that he has run out of steam. Can’t really find anything new in Exile.
Same old whining, his self explanations, cursing Tamil culture and other authors. Sex is invariably used in a perverted manner in his writings. It is neither lyrical or does is create the impact to be called as litreary piece I have read some of the works of Pablo Neruda, Pa.Singaram(Puyalile oru thoni), Fyodor Dostoyevsky and no way you can compare Charu’s work with those. Even in novels such as Kahleed Hossaini’s “Thousand Splendid Suns’ or Atiq Rahimi’s “The patience Stone” – sex was used as a tool to portray the repression of Afghan women. After reading all these, I can label Charu’s writing as nothing but repulsive Porn. His tall claims – for instance – his Zero Degree is the only lipogrammatic novel in Tamil is far from truth.
In fact it is in his benefit that the Tamil community is unaware/ignorant of world litreary scene. If they did, then no one will even waste a second in reading him. The way he portrays Tamil culture – as though its far inferior to that western culture – makes him a laughing stock. In Austria we have cases of ruthless father keeping her daughter captivated as a sex slave – the sex crimes in western countries are even more grievous than that of here. He doesn’t have any principle.
Its his personal thing – I am fine as long as he keeps it to himself. But he asks his readers to follow – eg. Nithayanada and other religious guys he was promoting in his website. He was tearing apart Gopinath of Neeya Naana but now he is back in the show. Talk about social responsibility – It can’t get any worse than this.
Mylord when you dig into Charu’s writings;also do have a look into the sacred,religious and mythological texts too. If possible call saraswati and ask what brahma did to her? If possible call ayyapan and let us know his birth secret? If possible call Adam and Eve and let us know if they are siblings or couples? If possible walk into Ghettos of United States and let us know how their lives are? If possible put your thoughts on the language to be used when you depict the life of people in a Ghetto.Do you prefer Sankritizing or localizing?
If possible put your thoughts on why their language is so crude? If possible put your thoughts on why their lives are so tough? Enlighten and Enrich us.
US tamilan Wake Up!!!! Please stop reading literature, you are sick with scientific and logic approach, Literature is to release us from this not to bind into it. You have serious problem of seeing the utility value for all product you buy and you apply the same logic into literature. Logic and Literature are two opposite poles. You are thinking are very linear. Your approach to a fiction is totally flaw and more over you are so innocently ignorant. This the sign of so called technology man of modern world, leave us alone please.
Please keep your value assement for the product, cost benefit ratio calculation and all your modern management Technic with your self. Just because some one is Engineer / Doctor/ or any other professional does not means he is educated, for me you are one such case in the midst of lot like you in this world, you think on yes/No, Male/Female, good/Evil bi polarity. The world have realized the disastrous result of such linear thinking. Thinking linear is acceptable but fighting to establish that is the right way is terrorism, wake up, look around.
You think writers should write only universal acceptable truth and ways, bullshit, all acceptable truth are to and can be broken and analyzed and it is only possible in Literature especially in Fiction. Charu work are doing that in style. Incest, Genocides, racial cleaning, Prostitution, Eve teasing, child molestation, rape, murder all are because of people like you, you think there is only one way and that is your way. More over THE WAY is more important that a human life and feelings. There are so many things is the world which are glorified in this world and you expect a writer to write only on this glorified things ( God, Morals, Love, sacrifice.).
By writing on those glorified things turns those into mere words, but breaking them and analyzing them in fiction makes them real. You feel the importance and enjoy them, adore them with real passion. I am sure you will not be able to speak language other than what you use for business and what you need in your home, you never play games, you never go out with friends without purpose, you feel stressed if some one over takes you, you will violate all rules to over take him again, you will proudly say that you wont waste a single minute and use every hour productivity. You will either work or sleep.
This post has gotten my blog more views than I’ve had with all the posts combined together, and it’s ironic considering I started off this year wanting to keep this blog purely as a personal exercise on reading and writing, readers be damned. And don’t explain yourself, Rajesh. You’re right, we’re giving fodder to ignoramuses. I’m pretty much through trying to allow anyone to comment now.
My bullshit detector is on high alert. People, don’t bother commenting unless you have something literary to say. Hi US Tamilan, have you wondered why ‘chaa-nee’ (abreviation for ‘charunivedita in Tamil) has these kind of fans who would call him ‘ultimate writer’ and so.? I never get surprised as it is in our Great Tamilnadu guys like TRajendar have a huge following too.! I always remember that the great Sujatha once referred to chaa-nee’s writings as “oRRai ezuththu in Tamil”!!
Who else is more qualified to rate chaa-nee’s writings, and what else could be a better description of his writing than ‘piii.”??? When I was a child, a person claiming to be my aunt’s husband’s second cousin visited my house. As it was the custom in those days, my parents hosted him and fed him three square meals for three days. He claimed that he was in the armed services, honorably discharged, and looking for work. He told the children of the house many stories of his life: how beautiful the Himalayas are; how it is to feel sub-zero temperatures; how to evade bombs; how to take on your opponent bearing a knife; etc., etc. The man was a master story teller. A week or two after he left, we came to know that he was in the Tamil Nadu Police Department as a constable under probation, caught taking a bribe or committing another petty crime, and dismissed, and he has never been to anywhere outside Tamil Nadu.
The man was a humbug, but that does not change the fact that he was also a master story teller. The same applies to Charu. For two years or so, Charuonline.com hosted a hyperlink that screamed “I saw God.” The God was Mister Nithyananda. One fine day, the hyperlink vanished.
Charu claimed that his blog was hacked and all posts were lost. Soon after Nithyananda scandal came out in the public. Any decent person would have apologized for promoting someone like Nithyananda.
Charu went on a tirade: against Nithyananda; against his own devotees who felt betrayed that their messiah had led them to the wrong God and fewer pocket change; and against his critics who lampooned him for once again proving to be the jester that he is. As his God fell from the pedestal, so did his formidable linguistic skills. His terse response then was to call everyone an “ass licker”: Nithyananda was described as the one who licked the asses of actresses; and Jeyamohan, who posted a hilarious blog on the topic was called as the one who licked the asses of movie directors.
The same Charu is capable of producing a high work of art like Zero Degree. I think it is in Zero Degree, he says something to the effect: ‘Do not try to understand me through my text because I do not write my text.’ Critics of Charu: please separate the text and the writer; judge them independently; and then decide whether you still want to reject the text. I was just trying to put you into circumstances from where Charu’s work begin;felt that will help you to understand why the language is crude,why incest happen etc.felt like you were trying to understand;so thought could share what i knew. If we need to understand charu’s art;we need to put ourselves into the circumstances of the fictional characters and not to put the fictional characters into our life circumstances.If we gonna continously put the fictional characters into our life circumstances,we are gonna become a lunatic. If your very firm that charu’s work are crap;so mote it be.I have got nothing else to say.I didn’t intend to hurt you;If i had been rude that was accidental.Have ignored many of your personal questions because i believed that to be accidental too. Why is this so complicated you like it read it.
If you dont like it dont read it if you have already read it thinking it to be good but that has failed your expectation that should be ok. Coz life works that way. India has a very less reading population and amongst them people who read charu are even lesser. So nobody is doing any harm to anybody. Charu writes what he likes to write.
Read it if you like it or move on to other writers. Talking bad about a person who has done nothing to us or the community sounds indifferent If you think his work is having a bad influence on the community what about other problems like corruption, poverty, red tapism, political fiascos, dynasty rule. And other problems that are washing away our country. Lets focus on our main problems and leave charu alone. Buy his books if you enjoy his writing or move on. Just because someone doesnt write the way you like doesnt give you the right to speak whatever you like I am not expecting any harsh reply.
But anyways life is all about failing expectations:p. I am in 100% agreement with Uglywords that Charu Niveditha’s writing is not porn.
He is least inhibited when it comes to the use of genitalia or graphic description of sexual acts. Rarely readers experience any sexual stimulation by reading it. Mostly a feeling of revulsion occurs. It is a deliberate method used by him to lead readers into his subject. Many readers stumble on this particular aspect and completely lose him.
Regarding repetitiveness, I think the problem is that Charu Niveditha is not a prolific writer. He writes slowly, and is distracted by a number of things (most of it his own doing). Many times in his blog, he would write a post that is only 7-8 paragraphs long, and remark that was the only thing he could write the whole day. He reuses much of what he writes on his blogs in his novels, so it seems like he does not write much.
The gap between his first and second novels was more than 10 years. Now, he tries to write one a year targeting the Chennai book fair. I don’t think he has sufficient stuff or stamina to write so frequently and create quality work. That’s why most of his works after Zero Degree are sub-par. Hi, I read your review of ‘Zero Degree’ with interest.
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I have read a few of Charu’s novels, ‘Existentialism and Fancy Banian’, ‘Zero Degree’, and more recently ‘Setham’. I read all those novels in Tamil.
I think a writer has the right to write anything that he or she feels like without any social/moral obligation. However, my overall impression of Charu’s writing is as follows (Charu’s avid fans do not read below, you are forewarned). 1) The strength of Charu’s writing is the fluency that keeps the reader engaged in the book even if he/she does not understand it. In my view, I think, Charu does not write novels. Anyone who has visited Charu’s website knows that Charu has a knack for coming up with good titles for his blog posts, and keep the snippets interesting to read.
He employs his strength. So, his novels can be summarized as a collection of short posts all sharing some aspect of the writer’s character. What is this aspect, one may ask. That leads us to point #2. 2) Charu’s style of non-linear story telling is affected, i.e., a technical accomplishment. The essence of Charu’s characters depict one of the following characteristics: (a) a peasant’s righteous rebellion against the vulgarity of pseudo-intellectuals or hierarchy or order, (b) characters that take a particular trait to the extreme (Setham) to expose the absurdity of it, or (c) a self-referential construct in which, the character that rails against an injustice is itself unjust.
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Mix them up, and throw some allusions, voila, a novel. One additional ingredient that Charu uses to keep things spicy is point #3. 3) Make the book a cross-word puzzle by name dropping or other literary allusions or other events. This raises the literary quotient in the novel (for those who are not familiar with those famous spanish writers).
This is often a deliberate, transparent trap set for a lay reader. For example, this reviewer quotes the episode where, ‘Muniyandi starts to make 18 copies’, and its possible link with Bhagawat Gita. Charu, cleverly never takes on anything directly or in depth. It is just a construct.
Other reviewers’ have pointed to the absence of a period or full stop. Overall, I find his writing, after the first novel, to be repetitive and somewhat predictable. The unpredictability that he attempts to introduce is deliberate.
I also get the impression that Charu is hoping for a ‘slumdog millionaire’ effect, where pornography of Indian poverty could vault him to the appreciation of a western audience. When I finished reading his books, I cannot help but get the feeling of the author deliberately trying to ‘shock’ the sensibilities without demonstrating the depth of perception or the writing skill and intellectual honesty necessary to tackle such complex issues. The violence, sex, and mindless nature of the society are just simple constructs to elicit shock among the readers, and the name dropping is meant to delude the reader into believing that there is more meaning in these words than their marketing value. I might be wrong, but so far, I have not heard anything in depth, either from Charu himself or the reviews of his books that have been published so far about the nature and the quality of Charu’s books. I have read many of Charu’s books and articles. Style of writing in Zero Degree (in tamil) is something that most of the readers in Tamil are not exposed to.
I was really confused for the better part of the first half and had to force myself to finish the second part. I am not sure I would say I liked it but it made for an interesting read. I got on with RasaLeela, Thegam and Exile (all tamil) and I should say Thegam turned out to be a damp squib and least of my favorite as it was too graphic and gory in details (not my cup of tea). His recent novel Exile is a hodgepodge/mishmash of blogs, letters, emails, sms, chat messages, corporate swamis, vedhas, recipes for cooking, aphrodisiac, making money, all info from the internet on sages, maps, ingredients for cooking, french, latin, middle eastern literature, yantra making process, Iyappa songs, a full page of a girl screaming “oghad oghad”, horoscopes, FB/Twitter statuses, cinema rumors, women dresses (g-string), Lara Fabian, yoga, siddha, ayurvedha, etc, etc. It was pieced together from his web pages, current affairs, his brush with spirituality, etc. I feel that the quality of his writing has been going down since Zero Degree/RasaLeela.
Not sure if he is out of ideas or trying to emulate the Latin/French writers instead of focusing on his strengths. I am keenly observing these comments and of course I was very much upset with Raja’s. But I cant expect everyone to go on my line of thinking. I have a 25 page answer for Raja’s observations. And, I wrote it in my three books which sasi sekar referred to. The reason I get upset is, I have dealt with these questions umpteenth times in my interviews and articles.
Now, I fully agree with sasi sekar. About the name dropping thing my god! I am not simply dropping names baba I have translated all the authors I have mentioned About sasi’s query that paricular incident appears in my first novel “existentialisamum fancy baniyanum” Thanks. Hi a word from me.
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Charu has always mentioned that there are two schools of thought in Tamil literature so far. Nakulan school of thought and 2. Sundara Ramasamy school of thought. A few members of the first school of thought are Asokamithran, Aadhavan, Konangi (drop out), Gopi Krishnan & Charu Nivedita whereas, a few members of the second school of thought are Jeyamohan, Naanjil Naadan etc Point to be noted here are that the members of the second school, whose literature predominantly contains the ‘rightist’ mentality – where sex is just a one liner (combined with morality) – can never enjoy the literature of the first school, as the first school contains literature interwoven with sex, vices and all the ‘De Sade’ potions. I remembered this when I looked in to the comment of Mr. Raja, in whose blog, I found an article about ‘Theerakkadhali’ (the book authored by Charu which talks about the superstars of the bygone era of Tamil cinema), stating that the book is a telephone directory. His blog (where I was able to read comments by A.V Suresh, who has obviously ‘brought in’ Raja to comment here) speaks volumes about Raja, who, undoubtedly belongs to the second school of thought.
My personal thought – let’s bring Bataille or De Sade or Sontag or kathy Acker to Raja and let’s hear his opinion. I’m quite sure he will reject these writers too. That, precisely, is the issue here in Tamil Nadu. People never understand that there is a stream of literature following the footsteps of De Sade and Bataille and would like to humiliate those writers verbally, or physically. In his books and interviews, Charu has always been answering to all the questions asked by the commenters here (who say that the violence, sex are for shock value). I would suggest them to read the books and the interviews, without which, the stereotyped question will again and again rise. In my response, I was simply expressing my take on Charu’s writings, and I have no ill-will toward him or his fans.
1) The blog referred by Mr. Da Scorp (baski-reviews.blogspot.com) is run by a team of four friends. I write under the pseudonym Karikalan, and the credit for the post about Theeraakathali goes to a friend of mine (clayhorse) – who is an avid reader.
They were his views. 2) The blog is just a hobby to share our reading pleasure. I personally do not know anyone who comments on the blog including Mr. I hope these clarifications would move the discussion away from the personalities and toward the review. I have marked the books referred by Mr. Sasi Sekar, and I would read them.
One more thing. I know you will reply again with a huge paragraph, and it will go on. I think let’s put a full stop here.
You have expressed what ever you wanted, and I have expressed my opinion. For how long can this debate prolong? Even Pallavi has written a few articles after this one. Hence, I personally think it’s better if we too move on.
On my side, I find it’s difficult to sit and compose a huge comment, denying another person’s comment or debating with another guy. Instead, I can do something productive (Translating Rasaleela or write in my own blog).
Hence, me signing off from the comment section:-). In case if you still want to argue, send me messages to my facebook id, for which I shall reply whenever I find time.
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